Bonnie
So it's been confirmed somewhere that originally Fear was the one lost with Joy. I'm curious what you guys think of this scrapped concept? Interesting concept that would have been fun to watch, or an idea they were right to drop?

I'm fairly interested in the Fear idea, mainly because, if we're assuming emotions not present at the control panel can't be felt by their person (which, admittedly, might be proven wrong), I think a fearless Riley could have been an interesting plot point. Plus, though I love Sadness, too, I find myself liking Fear just the tiniest bit more, so, personal bias. 

On the other side, though, I like them going with Sadness because I can totally understand the emotions' general confusion as to what Sadness does. Fear's job is kind of obvious when you put some thought into it, but Sadness' is something I'm actually kind of looking forward to seeing the movie explain (though I'm sure there's a scientific explanation out there already). 

I think this is one of those rare occasions of scrapped content where I have a hard time picking between it and the final product. 

(I thought it'd be better to make this thread before the movie came out, so we only have a vague idea of both stories, instead of it boiling down to "I'm glad they went with Sadness, because the movie was AWESOME!".)
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shadowjonathan
"fearless Riley"

I think that's where pixar decided the movie wouldn't "work" properly, even though i haven't had depression, i can easily imagine depression isn't a "depression" without constant fear to everything (scared of new home, school, etc. in riley's case)

Even though i've figured out half of the movie already (couldn't stop myself [tongue] ), i still haven't got a clue about Sadness' job as riley's emotion.

On the other hand, as a Fear roleplayer, i'd say totally "go for it!" if they plan to make another Inside Out movie with Fear as a major role! [thumb]

(i think the Joy/Fear combination instead of Joy/Sadness would be a interesting concept for the FF writers doe)
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Cynel
we just have  wait for the finished Film come out  and wait FF Writers can come up with.
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UntoldStories113
Cynel wrote:
we just have  wait for the finished Film come out  and wait FF Writers can come up with.

I've actually had something similar in the works for a while. [tongue]

I find this scrapped concept extremely intriguing. Without actually having seen the movie, I already love Fear to pieces, so of course I wouldn't have minded him getting a bigger role at all. But even without my personal bias, from a conceptual standpoint, I think it's a great thing to look at fear (the feeling, not the character) as a positive force for a change. Most people tend to disregard the reason we feel that feeling, so I think that's something worthy of being explored in detail.

Bonnie wrote:
(I thought it'd be better to make this thread before the movie came out, so we only have a vague idea of both stories, instead of it boiling down to "I'm glad they went with Sadness, because the movie was AWESOME!".)


Good thinking! People always tend to do that. And while I do trust Pixar's storytelling decisions and believe that the version they ended up with was the better one, it's great to still have a "fresh perspective" on this.
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shadowjonathan
UntoldStories113 wrote:
I find this scrapped concept extremely intriguing. Without actually having seen the movie, I already love Fear to pieces, so of course I wouldn't have minded him getting a bigger role at all. But even without my personal bias, from a conceptual standpoint, I think it's a great thing to look at fear (the feeling, not the character) as a positive force for a change. Most people tend to disregard the reason we feel that feeling, so I think that's something worthy of being explored in detail.

[Yes%2Bsir%2BD%2Bthis%2Bgif%2Bwas%2Bgolden%2B_483d2e3ead21878f296690ac04d468c4] 
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shadowjonathan
Cynel wrote:
we just have  wait for the finished Film come out  and wait FF Writers can come up with.

If you're interested, you can see what people already came up with here. (some pretty heavy stuff, too!)
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Cynel
shadowjonathan wrote:
Cynel wrote:
we just have  wait for the finished Film come out  and wait FF Writers can come up with.

If you're interested, you can see what people already came up with here. (some pretty heavy stuff, too!)


Ive Read whats on there even for a while i had a fic idea a Frozen/Inside Out crossover Fic where it shows Anna and Elsa's emotions the events of frozen would still happen just from a different perspective.
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Bonnie
shadowjonathan wrote:
"fearless Riley"

I think that's where pixar decided the movie wouldn't "work" properly, even though i haven't had depression, i can easily imagine depression isn't a "depression" without constant fear to everything (scared of new home, school, etc. in riley's case)



There's an article in one of the threads that says Riley isn't going to end up going through a depression. I think it's in the "Misc. Articles" thread. 

UntoldStories113 wrote:


I find this scrapped concept extremely intriguing. Without actually having seen the movie, I already love Fear to pieces, so of course I wouldn't have minded him getting a bigger role at all. But even without my personal bias, from a conceptual standpoint, I think it's a great thing to look at fear (the feeling, not the character) as a positive force for a change. Most people tend to disregard the reason we feel that feeling, so I think that's something worthy of being explored in detail.


Agreed, though at least Fear and the others are being presented positively even without being the main focus. 



shadowjonathan wrote:
Cynel wrote:
we just have  wait for the finished Film come out  and wait FF Writers can come up with.

If you're interested, you can see what people already came up with here. (some pretty heavy stuff, too!)


Put Joy and Fear in the character boxes and got one of UntoldStories' stories. You're really good, Untold. [Big-Grin_zps23ec4c40]



Thinking about it a bit...I don't think Fear we know now would work as well as Sadness, just because the guy doesn't seem to be as stuck in his emotion as Sadness. We've seen him smile plenty of times, he continues to interact with Anger despite surely knowing doing so gets him hurt, all in all he acts like he already went through his character development and I imagine that if Joy was stuck alone with him, she's just see his ability to bounce back as admirable. To make him even less fearful would probably make him lose his emotional aspect. 

Of course, things change in preproduction all the time and it's possible his character majorly changed once they decided he wasn't going to be the focus. Maybe he was originally much more fearful and unhappy.
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shadowjonathan
Something in the back of my head says pixar probably want kids to "embrace" fear positively; to say to them "it's not a bad guy, he just wants to help you get out of trouble!"
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Cynel
Bonnie wrote:
shadowjonathan wrote:
"fearless Riley"

I think that's where pixar decided the movie wouldn't "work" properly, even though i haven't had depression, i can easily imagine depression isn't a "depression" without constant fear to everything (scared of new home, school, etc. in riley's case)



There's an article in one of the threads that says Riley isn't going to end up going through a depression. I think it's in the "Misc. Articles" thread. 

UntoldStories113 wrote:


I find this scrapped concept extremely intriguing. Without actually having seen the movie, I already love Fear to pieces, so of course I wouldn't have minded him getting a bigger role at all. But even without my personal bias, from a conceptual standpoint, I think it's a great thing to look at fear (the feeling, not the character) as a positive force for a change. Most people tend to disregard the reason we feel that feeling, so I think that's something worthy of being explored in detail.


Agreed, though at least Fear and the others are being presented positively even without being the main focus. 



shadowjonathan wrote:
Cynel wrote:
we just have  wait for the finished Film come out  and wait FF Writers can come up with.

If you're interested, you can see what people already came up with here. (some pretty heavy stuff, too!)


Put Joy and Fear in the character boxes and got one of UntoldStories' stories. You're really good, Untold. [Big-Grin_zps23ec4c40]



Thinking about it a bit...I don't think Fear we know now would work as well as Sadness, just because the guy doesn't seem to be as stuck in his emotion as Sadness. We've seen him smile plenty of times, he continues to interact with Anger despite surely knowing doing so gets him hurt, all in all he acts like he already went through his character development and I imagine that if Joy was stuck alone with him, she's just see his ability to bounce back as admirable. To make him even less fearful would probably make him lose his emotional aspect. 

Of course, things change in preproduction all the time and it's possible his character majorly changed once they decided he wasn't going to be the focus. Maybe he was originally much more fearful and unhappy.


and im sure there will be more after the movie comes out.
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Luis504170
shadowjonathan wrote:
Something in the back of my head says pixar probably want kids to "embrace" fear positively; to say to them "it's not a bad guy, he just wants to help you get out of trouble!"


I think they are trying to do that with every emotion. I agree with everything you guys are saying! If I were to give my opinion, i would just be repeating what you guys said!! So i'll vote up all of your comments.
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UntoldStories113
Bonnie wrote:
Agreed, though at least Fear and the others are being presented positively even without being the main focus. 

Ah, yes, of course. I meant that in a more general sense, not necessarily concerning Inside Out. Sorry for being confusing. [wink]

Bonnie wrote:
Put Joy and Fear in the character boxes and got one of UntoldStories' stories. You're really good, Untold. [Big-Grin_zps23ec4c40]

Thank you! [smile] Good to know you enjoyed it!

Bonnie wrote:
he continues to interact with Anger despite surely knowing doing so gets him hurt

He has no choice - Anger's temper might get Riley into trouble. [wink]
Generally, though, you're right in saying that Fear seems a lot more "balanced" than Sadness, and that that would probably have been different in the original version.

shadowjonathan wrote:
[Yes%2Bsir%2BD%2Bthis%2Bgif%2Bwas%2Bgolden%2B_483d2e3ead21878f296690ac04d468c4] 

He's a she, by the way! [tongue] But thank you. [wink]
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shadowjonathan
UntoldStories113 wrote:
He's a she, by the way! [tongue] But thank you. [wink]

Couldn't find a better one to reply with. XD
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mac95
It is very interesting to think about what the movie would be like with Fear instead of Sadness with Joy. If this was the case, I feel they probably would have had to rework some elements from the movie. In the end, I am happy they went with Sadness because she is the Emotion that no one understands what she does.
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