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Why even bother doing a live action remake of something that had no humans in it? Jungle Book and Winnie the Pooh at least have one. Unless they change the story to add a person or use the sort of costumes used on Broadway (which, admittedly, would be a very interesting twist and I'd actually consider watching, but I doubt they'd actually do) it's going to end up being almost entirely CGI except maybe some of the backgrounds and some shots of animals not doing anything specific.

If they're going to do this thing why not just full on make it a CGI remake, then give the thing its own unique art style instead of just emulating real life? At least that would be interesting from a design standpoint, as well as something actually unique (the act of remaking a 2D movie in 3D that is. I don't know if that's a thing a noteworthy American company has done before). Yeah, 2D fans would probably be angry, but they're making people angry anyway.

And I guess this means everything I said about them not remaking most Pixar movies because they'd end up being mostly animated anyway was wrong.

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Peace_Love_Pixar
Yep, it think it's official- I looked online and there are a couple of articles talking about it. As far as it goes then, these are all the live action films I think we're getting so far/have so far...

-Dumbo
-Alice in Wonderland
-Alice in Wonderland 2
-Winnie the Pooh
-The Jungle Book
-Maleficent
-Pinocchio
-Peter Pan
-The Lion King
-Cinderella
-Pete's Dragon
-Beauty and the Beast

And probably a couple dozen more, but there are just a lot and I'm not fully sure I can name them all.

Now as for the news... At first I was pretty mad, I'll be honest. But the director of The Lion King happens to be the director of The Jungle Book (who supposedly happens to be working on a sequel for the live action film), which I think I liked the best out of all live action films so far, so I guess I shouldn't be overly irritated since he did a great job on the classic by mixing intense elements and hilarious/lighthearted concepts together into a beautiful masterpiece.

The thing that bothers me though, is that this isn't really live action at all- more like "CGI characters in a real life environment". That is, unless they plan to replace the animals with real people, which is such a terrible idea I'm sure people wouldn't watch the movie at all. Besides, what would they call that, "Human King"?

And I'm afraid this means that Disney could go ahead and make Pixar live action films. Though that would be a bad idea (since I'm thinking that the Pixar fans wouldn't watch the movie at all), it certainly is possible, since Brave and The Incredibles both don't require many non-human characters. Oh boy, I'm hoping that that doesn't happen at all...
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Vellerie
Yep, the guy who directed The Jungle Book was apparently the one who broke the news, because he tweeted something like "Excited about my next project" and inserted icons of a lion and a crown. I think he'll do a good a job, and I think the movie will do well, but I think the idea of a studio just remaking all its old films is boring. I know it's "safe,"and I read speculation that they're doing it to keep their licenses on the films (I'm not sure this is true), but we've been there, done that. Why not have fresh live action films that deliver the same spirit as these old ones? Or a new epic saga like Pirates of the Caribbean (no, I'm not excited about that fifth movie either, lol)? Guess that's what Disney Animation and Pixar are for.

I mean, I know that this gives them a chance to put a twist on old tales; change things up a bit from the original. And I like the idea of a live action Night on Bald Mountain (granted, since it's only one segment of Fantasia, it'll be mostly original I imagine). Same with Mulan, because they can expand the story and get rid of the anachronisms, and explore the culture more. But some of the movies they have chosen just leave me shaking my head (Winnie the Pooh, Pete's Dragon, the overdone Peter Pan). And yes, Lion King won't really be live action in the first place, but I remember the article mentioning a child actor, and I'm hoping they just mean a voice actor.

As for Pixar, I think the only movie likely to get a live action remake is Brave. Hope that doesn't happen, but I can completely see Disney doing a Frozen one way down the line.
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Peace_Love_Pixar
Vellerie wrote:
Yep, the guy who directed The Jungle Book was apparently the one who broke the news, because he tweeted something like "Excited about my next project" and inserted icons of a lion and a crown. I think he'll do a good a job, and I think the movie will do well,


Yes, most likely. He did good working on The Jungle Book, and TLK has a large fan base, considering how it is a Broadway show, a Disney Junior show, and two sequels, so it'll probably make good money (unless it rubs potential viewers the wrong way and looks too fake or desperate, which I don't think will be the case cause they did a pretty good job in marketing The Jungle Book).

Vellerie wrote:
but I think the idea of a studio just remaking all its old films is boring.


I mean, it is strategic, but I suppose I'm gonna have to agree if they do actually wind up remaking ALL of their old movies (and I mean all, or at least a lot [wink]).

Vellerie wrote:
I know it's "safe,"and I read speculation that they're doing it to keep their licenses on the films (I'm not sure this is true), but we've been there, done that.


What do you mean by keeping their licenses?

Vellerie wrote:
Why not have fresh live action films that deliver the same spirit as these old ones? Or a new epic saga like Pirates of the Caribbean (no, I'm not excited about that fifth movie either, lol)? Guess that's what Disney Animation and Pixar are for.


Yeah, they keep reviving old films, but when are they gonna come up with new series or live action movies? :/

Vellerie wrote:
And yes, Lion King won't really be live action in the first place, but I remember the article mentioning a child actor, and I'm hoping they just mean a voice actor.


...I'm afraid that doesn't sound too good.

How much you wanna bet it could be a story told through a kid narrator or who happens to watch all this unfold?

As for those films you mentioned, Winnie the Pooh certainly does seem like an odd choice, Peter Pan kind of was overdone (though I'm thinking they probably could find a way to make that original), and Pete's Dragon kind of looks good to me- I haven't had a chance to watch it, but it gives me a vibe of an underrated Jungle Book (though I could be wrong).

Vellerie wrote:
As for Pixar, I think the only movie likely to get a live action remake is Brave. Hope that doesn't happen, but I can completely see Disney doing a Frozen one way down the line.


Yeah, I could see that happening (maybe when they run out of ideas on how to keep milking it [tongue]).
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PixarsBiggestFan
Inside Out may also eventually get a live action.
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Vellerie
Peace_Love_Pixar, I think I used the wrong word when I said license. I don't remember where, but I read speculation that since copyrights are lost after a certain amount of time (for instance, some classic novels are old enough that they're freely posted and available), they're redoing the movies to keep their exclusive rights to those stories. I honestly don't think this is the case, but I thought it was interesting. It's kind of like how some old books are continually rereleased in new translations because old ones are out of copyright (or, on the contrary, some publishers use the old, free one so they don't have to pay a translator). Since some of the animated movies they're redoing are newer, like Lion King, I don't think the copyright issue is why. I guess it's just a combination of reintroducing old stories to a new generation and making more money.

I mean, I'll admit that I'll watch the new Lion King at some point, even if I'm just renting it.
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Peace_Love_Pixar
Vellerie wrote:
Peace_Love_Pixar, I think I used the wrong word when I said license. I don't remember where, but I read speculation that since copyrights are lost after a certain amount of time (for instance, some classic novels are old enough that they're freely posted and available), they're redoing the movies to keep their exclusive rights to those stories. I honestly don't think this is the case, but I thought it was interesting. It's kind of like how some old books are continually rereleased in new translations because old ones are out of copyright (or, on the contrary, some publishers use the old, free one so they don't have to pay a translator).


Oh I see. [wink] Interesting...

Vellerie wrote:
Since some of the animated movies they're redoing are newer, like Lion King, I don't think the copyright issue is why. I guess it's just a combination of reintroducing old stories to a new generation and making more money.


Yep, the background reason is most likely to make more money, I agree.

Vellerie wrote:
I mean, I'll admit that I'll watch the new Lion King at some point, even if I'm just renting it.


Pff, heh heh me too. XD

https://ohmy.disney.com/news/2016/10/04/just-confirmed-live-action-mulan/

Looks like Mulan was just confirmed. Not sure if this is good news or bad news, since I did enjoy the animated film and I'm not sure if the remake will be good.

Oh, and what Disney studio are pumping out all these movies? I know Marvel makes Marcel movies, and WDAS and Pixar make animated movies, and Lucasfilm makes Star Wars, so who's making all the remakes?

Just to stay updated, this is what's happening so far: about 10+ movies have been speculated or confirmed, Beauty and the Beast is next with a March 2017 release date, and Pete's Dragon was the last remake they made.
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PixarsBiggestFan
Another live-action redoing, of Mulan, has been announced.

https://ohmy.disney.com/news/2016/10/04/just-confirmed-live-action-mulan/
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Peace_Love_Pixar
http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/10/17-upcoming-live-action-disney-remakes/

The link above talks about I think all the live actions planned or rumored so far.
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